More passengers using Slaithwaite and Marsden stations

The Office of Rail Regulation released 2010-11 station data on 29th March.

These are the figures for station usage from 2002/03 to 2010/11.

All these figures exclude the element, or part of the element, of travel using Metro cards: we are told by Metro that we should add 25% to these figures in West Yorkshire to get the actual absolute figures.

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Replacement bus services, Sundays from 1st April

There will be no Sunday trains at Slaithwaite and Marsden from 1st April. The information is available, via Metro or Northern Rail’s timetables, but not particularly easy to find and rather vague as to where the replacement buses call.

Why?

Stalybridge station is to be remodelled, creating two extra platforms. One is to be a bay platform facing towards Manchester Victoria, next to the buffet bar. This will be for the Stalybridge to Liverpool trains which will no longer have to cross the main line. There will be one additional through platform, which will enable express trains to overtake local trains at Stalybridge, in either direction. This gives more flexibility to reduce the impact of delays.

The construction process will cause some disruption.

When?

There will be no Sunday trains from 1st April to 24th June and again from 16th September to 3rd December. [Actually that’s not quite true, there will be one mid-evening train from Huddersfield to Marsden and back.]

During October half term the line will be closed (a “complete blockade” at Stalybridge, as it has been described) with Trans Pennine expresses sent along the Calder Valley route through Todmorden & Rochdale and a replacement bus between Victoria and Huddersfield. SMART has requested that during that week, trains should continue to run from Huddersfield to Marsden and back.

Replacement bus services

Where from?

According to the timetables published by Metro and by Northern Rail, buses will call at Marsden “town centre” and Slaithwaite “town centre”.

If you were to assume, as well you might, that Marsden town centre meant somewhere near the Mechanics Hall, you’d be wrong. Actually the replacement buses will call on Manchester Road, next to the New Inn.

  • Services towards Manchester use bus stop 45019367, opposite the New Inn.
  • Services towards Huddersfield use bus stop 45015146, outside the New Inn.

Likewise, if you were to assume that Slaithwaite town centre means somewhere near either the circular car park, the roundabout or the library, you’d be wrong again. Actually the rail replacement buses will call at the bus stops outside the Star Hotel on Manchester Road.

  • Services towards Manchester use bus stop 45028140, opposite the Star Inn
  • Services towards Huddersfield use bus stop 45019392, outside the Star Inn.

At all other intermediate stations – Greenfield, Mossley, Stalybridge, Ashton – the replacement bus calls on the station forecourt.

Having discovered where the replacement bus calls, when?

  Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Train Bus
Huddersfield 0910 1010 1110 1210 1310 1410 1510 1610 1710 1810 1910 2010 2110 2119 2210
Slaithwaite 0926 1026 1126 1226 1326 1426 1526 1626 1726 1826 1926 2026 2126 2126 2226
Marsden 0931 1031 1131 1231 1331 1431 1531 1631 1731 1831 1931 2031 2131 2133 2231
Manchester Victoria 1038 1138 1238 1338 1438 1538 1638 1738 1838 1938 2038 2138 2238   2338

 

  Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Bus Train Bus
Manchester Victoria 0817 0917 1043 1143 1243 1343 1443 1543 1643 1743 1843 1943   2119
Marsden 0924 1024 1150 1250 1350 1450 1550 1650 1750 1850 1950 2050 2147 2150
Slaithwaite 0931 1031 1155 1255 1355 1455 1555 1655 1755 1855 1955 2055 2151 2155
Huddersfield 0945 1045 1211 1311 1411 1511 1611 1711 1811 1911 2011 2111 2157 2211

One thing which is worthy of note is how much slower the bus is than the train. The train can get from Victoria to Marsden in 32 minutes. The replacement bus takes 67 minutes. Another reason why our local train service is so valuable.

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Next Meeting of SMART – March 2012

The next meeting of SMART will be on Wednesday 28th March 2012, at 7.15pm in the Commercial, Slaithwaite.

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New Ticket regime imposed by Northern on Valley Passengers

Travellers beware, Northern changes the rules.

 For 8 years, since the inception of Northern Rail as the principal affordable means of travel between Slaithwaite, Marsden and the rest of the world, one has been able to but a ticket on the train.

 Admittedly this has been a hit and miss affair as so frequently the guard has refused to leave his or her cabin to sell tickets. Even more frequently their ticket machines have broken down leaving the passenger unable to but a ticket en route.

 But from today, it seems custom and practice has been abolished. A Slaithwaite resident was evicted from the 16.30 train bound for Manchester Victoria on the grounds that she did not have a ticket. When she pleaded with the guard to sell her a ticket as was the normal practice, he tried to call the police exclaiming that it is illegal to travel on a train without a ticket. The guard told her she had to go to the ticket office via the subway and buy a ticket before she could catch the train, re-affirming that,” it is illegal to travel without a ticket”.

 He tried to call the police, but presumably it was pointed out to him that it would take a while for the police to get there as they would have to come from Leeds. Eventually after delaying the departure of the train for ten minutes, he set the train off, telling the other passengers that their delay was caused by the passenger refusing to produce a ticket.

Quite why this universal change of policy has occurred, no-one seems to know. It might just be a renegade guard standing on his dignity. Occasionally in the past a guard has refused to sell concessionary tickets, but no-one could recall an outright refusal to sell a ticket on the train.

 The passenger tried to point out that she had boarded the train at an unmanned station hence her wish to buy the ticket on the train. His response was consistently, that she would have to miss this train and buy a ticket from the station office.

 The guard insisted that he had told passengers ten minutes in advance that they would have to purchase tickets in advance from the station office, for the few people who heard this announcement; it appeared that they could not understand why they were being told this. After 8 years of buying your ticket on the train, when the guard was able to leave his cabin, one was not likely to jump off the train a few minutes before it was due to leave, race through the tunnel stand in a queue and hop to be able to race back to the train before it left. And this ignores the passengers who like our passenger from Slaithwaite who joined the train after the guard had made his announcement.

 Quite this guard should suddenly behave in such an authoritarian manner, throw customer relations out of the window is not easily understandable. But one fellow passenger has indicated that Northern are worried that their seat at the table with the “Big Boys” in the new round of franchising might be endangered by their poor performance to date. The government has said that all new contracts to print money will be let before the next election in 2015. This does not leave Northern much time to improve. Perhaps this is why, after 8 years of waiting a ticket machine which works from time to time has appeared on one platform in Slaithwaite.

 

 What further improvements can we expect from this company? More prison cells for passengers who cannot race down the tunnel to get a ticket. After all they only run one train an hour.

 ACB

12 Mar. 12

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