“Is seven-mile Marsden to Greenfield train journey still the most expensive in the UK?”

[from the Huddersfield Daily Examiner,Thursday 15th January 2015]

Passengers on one of Britain’s most expensive rail routes are calling for a fairer pricing system.

At £5.90 (84p per mile) a seven-mile single trans-Pennine trip from Greenfield to Marsden is still one of the country’s priciest.

By comparison it costs £2.40 for a single from Marsden to Huddersfield (7.4 miles) and £5.60 from Marsden to Leeds (27 miles).

And if you’re going further into Yorkshire it’ll cost you even more. A single from Greenfield – officially part of Yorkshire until 1974 – to Leeds costs a whopping £14.90.

Crossing counties on Britain’s rail network bumps up the ticket price.

But including the cross-county fee the trip from Greenfield to Marsden seems expensive compared to equivalent cross-county trips.

A single from Wigan, Greater Manchester, to St Helens, nine miles away in Merseyside costs £4.40.

While a 10-mile journey from Sheffield, South Yorkshire, to Chesterfield, Derbyshire, will set you back £5.10.

And a 16-mile trip from Darlington, County Durham, to Middlesbrough, Teesside, costs £5.30.

Greenfield resident David Haigh said:

“I was just looking at getting the train to New Pudsey to meet my wife after work.

“For me to get the train from Greenfield to New Pudsey is £18.40 single. For me to get the train from Marsden to New Pudsey is £4.70 single.

“That works out at £13.70 to go seven miles from Greenfield to Marsden.

“It is absolutely ridiculous.”

The fare has since increased to £18.90 and £4.80 for two journeys respectively.

You can sometimes save cash by buying more than one ticket or picking a different route.

For example, if you buy two singles for a one-way journey – one from Greenfield to Marsden and another from Marsden to Leeds – you’ll pay £11.50.

That’s £3.40 less than the £14.90 ‘cheapest fare’ claimed by the official National Rail Enquiries website.

But such bizarre cost-cutting methods have led to calls for a more logical fares system.

Paul Salveson, transport professor at Huddersfield University, said:

“The whole system has evolved higgledy-piggledy.

“It goes back to the times of British Rail and there’s the added complications of the passenger transport executives (PTEs) with their own pricing systems.

“It can end up being very expensive.

“It should be done on a northern basis not just for Greater Manchester and Yorkshire. There should be some short-term fare reductions – it’s not impossible.”

Prof Salveson added:

“There isn’t any logical justification for it.”

A spokesperson for Northern Rail, which runs the Manchester to Leeds service stopping at Greenfield and Marsden, said:

“We are aware of the issues raised by commuters when travelling from Greenfield and Marsden. We set the fares for some journeys on the route while some tickets are set by other train operators.

“We want to encourage as many people as possible to use our services from Greenfield and Marsden and we will continue to offer affordable fares from both stations.”

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/marsden-greenfield-train-expensive-fare-8443831?ICID=FB-Examiner-main

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New passenger information screens

Metro said that passenger information screens would be installed at Marsden and Slaithwaite during January and February 2015, and now it appears to be happening.

Metro are providing the funding.

This is the screen which has been erected on the Manchester-bound platform. As at 12th January, the post for the screen had been erected on the Huddersfield-bound platform. No sign of anything happenning at Marsden yet, but hopefully that’s next on their list of things to do.Photo-0003

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“Alcohol ban on rowdy trains from Teesside to York”

Perhaps something that could be tried on the ale trail?

[from the BBC website, 6th December 2014]

A booze ban was in force on four Saturday train services from Teesside to York after a rise in complaints on anti-social behaviour.

The British Transport Police (BTP) said it had received reports from passengers on the First TransPennnie services from Middlesbrough being intimidated.

The ban was only for one day, but BTP said it may extend the scheme if it is deemed successful.

The “dry” trains were the 09:28, 10:28, 11:28 and 12:28 services.

Ch Insp Derek O’Mara said:

“There has been a noticeable increase in the number of complaints from passengers who have been travelling on these services and they report having been subjected to alcohol-fuelled anti-social behaviour.

“Trains are not extensions of bars and clubs; they are used by everyone including families, young people and the elderly.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30358959

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“As the number of rail passengers goes up in Huddersfield, so will the cost of a train”

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Fares going up for the second time this year. It’s a bit naughty for the government to claim the credit for removing the “fares flex”, when they introduced it in the first place, but SMART welcomes the fact that they have now done the right thing.

It’s also a bit naughty to acknowledge passengers’ concern about the complexity of the fares structure shortly after the government has forced Northern Rail to introduce some onerous and complex restrictions on off-peak fares. If they were serious about removing complexity and unfairness, then they would review the off-peak restrictions which we are given to understand are not achieving the stated aim of raising more revenue.

[from the Huddersfield Daily Examiner, 6th December 2014]

Commuters will see rail fares rise by an average of 2.2% from January 2.

It is the lowest rise for five years after above-inflation rises in recent years, and cynics have already pointed out it comes ahead of May’s General Election.

But rail experts say that passengers will be unhappy in having to pay more for the same service.

Although the fare increase for all types of ticket averages 2.2%, season tickets are going up by 2.5% – not only well above the CPI inflation figure but also in excess of most annual pay rises.

A 12 month season ticket from Huddersfield to Leeds is currently £1,304.00 per year and it will rise to £1,316.00.

A monthly season ticket is £125.20 and it will rise to £126.40.

However, the Rail Delivery Group (RDG), which makes the decision, said the money from fares helped maintain the railways, which benefits passengers and the economy.

Peter Marshall, chairman of the Huddersfield-Sheffield-Penistone Rail Users’ Association, said:

“It is always difficult to pass on fare increases when 50% of them are government policy and 50% are from rail companies.

“Clearly the government wants to keep rail fares low and it is noticeable there is an election coming and I think from that point of view they want to keep the passengers sweet.

“Quite clearly we are going to see the increase in season ticket and passengers will feel penalised.

“We’ve had promises of all sorts of wonderful improvements for the rail network, but fare increases have been over the odds for years and passengers are still waiting for the improvements while having to get on old trains.”

The January rise will see some season tickets in the north of England are going up by less than 2%.

Mr Marshall added: “Rail fares in the north haven’t been as high because people have the option to drive to work.

“In the south, where the train is the only option because of congestion on roads and parking in the capital, public transport is really the only option.”

The announcement comes the day after it was revealed there had been a 10% rise in rail passenger numbers in the Huddersfield area, with more than 8.5 million journeys in a year.

Mr Marshall says the hike won’t put people off, adding:

“The advantages of rail travel are apparent and I think for the Penistone line it will grow.”

Rail Minister Claire Perry said:

“Passengers are rightly concerned about the cost and complexity of fares. That is why last year we announced a real-terms freeze on regulated fares for the first time in a decade and this continues into 2015.

“Significantly we have also removed the fares flex for 2015. As a further measure we have asked operators to improve the information passengers receive when buying a ticket.”

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/number-rail-passengers-goes-up-8235363?ICID=FB-Examiner-main

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